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	<title>Comments on: Frustration with accessibility in Flash and Flex</title>
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		<title>By: Kofa</title>
		<link>http://joshblog.net/2007/08/15/no-documentation-for-flash-and-flex-component-accessibility/#comment-1344</link>
		<dc:creator>Kofa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve found that disabling virtual PC cursor (Ins+Z, or whatever key takes the place of US Z on your keyboard, e.g. Y in the Hungarian layout) allows me to press buttons and generally use the application as if JAWS were not running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found that disabling virtual PC cursor (Ins+Z, or whatever key takes the place of US Z on your keyboard, e.g. Y in the Hungarian layout) allows me to press buttons and generally use the application as if JAWS were not running.</p>
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		<title>By: web design in Dubai</title>
		<link>http://joshblog.net/2007/08/15/no-documentation-for-flash-and-flex-component-accessibility/#comment-1343</link>
		<dc:creator>web design in Dubai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post - very helpful, thanks! Iâ€™m working on an accessible tree control for AS2 - after hunting around, I discovered thereâ€™s a â€˜magicâ€™ _accImpl object that can be attached to any movieclip - it supports a subset of the methods available in AS3, including getChildIdArray(). The problem is, getChildIdArray() is only being called for the first level in the tree hierarchy. Sure enough, AccExplorer.exe shows only the top level of hierarchy.

This may be a limitation of Flash 8/AS2. Did you have a similar issue with your tree control, or id getChildIdArray() called for each level in the hierarchy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post &#8211; very helpful, thanks! Iâ€™m working on an accessible tree control for AS2 &#8211; after hunting around, I discovered thereâ€™s a â€˜magicâ€™ _accImpl object that can be attached to any movieclip &#8211; it supports a subset of the methods available in AS3, including getChildIdArray(). The problem is, getChildIdArray() is only being called for the first level in the tree hierarchy. Sure enough, AccExplorer.exe shows only the top level of hierarchy.</p>
<p>This may be a limitation of Flash 8/AS2. Did you have a similar issue with your tree control, or id getChildIdArray() called for each level in the hierarchy?</p>
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		<title>By: Susie</title>
		<link>http://joshblog.net/2007/08/15/no-documentation-for-flash-and-flex-component-accessibility/#comment-1342</link>
		<dc:creator>Susie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there - I too am having a hard time making my flash files accessible, even after doing the tutorials for the files that came with CS3 on my computer  - even THEIR files weren&#039;t being read by JAWS. It read all of the buttons, in the correct order but didn&#039;t read any of the text boxes on the page  - just completely skipped them over. I build e-learning courses, some straight in flash, some in lectora, some in captivate - but experimenting in a combo lectora/flash currently and that is where this is all stemming from. If I can solve this issue - I&#039;ll have need to use clunky old lectora for anything...except something that needs SCORM. Loved the rant....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there &#8211; I too am having a hard time making my flash files accessible, even after doing the tutorials for the files that came with CS3 on my computer  &#8211; even THEIR files weren&#8217;t being read by JAWS. It read all of the buttons, in the correct order but didn&#8217;t read any of the text boxes on the page  &#8211; just completely skipped them over. I build e-learning courses, some straight in flash, some in lectora, some in captivate &#8211; but experimenting in a combo lectora/flash currently and that is where this is all stemming from. If I can solve this issue &#8211; I&#8217;ll have need to use clunky old lectora for anything&#8230;except something that needs SCORM. Loved the rant&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul R</title>
		<link>http://joshblog.net/2007/08/15/no-documentation-for-flash-and-flex-component-accessibility/#comment-1341</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting, thanks.

Hopefully most readers will have seen this, but just to make sure...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2008/07/draft_documentation_for_flash.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Draft Documentation for Flash Accessibility Implementation&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting, thanks.</p>
<p>Hopefully most readers will have seen this, but just to make sure&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2008/07/draft_documentation_for_flash.html" rel="nofollow">Draft Documentation for Flash Accessibility Implementation</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh Tynjala</title>
		<link>http://joshblog.net/2007/08/15/no-documentation-for-flash-and-flex-component-accessibility/#comment-1340</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Tynjala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to Flex accessibility, I&#039;ve made a feature request for more documentation:

https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-15006

If you&#039;d like to see better docs and examples in this area, please vote!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to Flex accessibility, I&#8217;ve made a feature request for more documentation:</p>
<p><a href="https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-15006" rel="nofollow">https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-15006</a></p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to see better docs and examples in this area, please vote!</p>
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		<title>By: asdf</title>
		<link>http://joshblog.net/2007/08/15/no-documentation-for-flash-and-flex-component-accessibility/#comment-1339</link>
		<dc:creator>asdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pretty soon accessability will be required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pretty soon accessability will be required.</p>
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		<title>By: Joan Lafferty</title>
		<link>http://joshblog.net/2007/08/15/no-documentation-for-flash-and-flex-component-accessibility/#comment-1338</link>
		<dc:creator>Joan Lafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Josh,

Thanks for your detailed descriptions on how we can make Accessibility better. I just wanted to encourage you to file any of your Flex Feature Requests in our public bugbase. There are currently no Feature Requests for Accessibility and just a handful of deferred bugs and minor requests. If there are more customers filing bugs in this area of the product, I&#039;m pretty sure, that it will get more focus in future versions of the product.

Thanks,
Joan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh,</p>
<p>Thanks for your detailed descriptions on how we can make Accessibility better. I just wanted to encourage you to file any of your Flex Feature Requests in our public bugbase. There are currently no Feature Requests for Accessibility and just a handful of deferred bugs and minor requests. If there are more customers filing bugs in this area of the product, I&#8217;m pretty sure, that it will get more focus in future versions of the product.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Joan</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Tynjala</title>
		<link>http://joshblog.net/2007/08/15/no-documentation-for-flash-and-flex-component-accessibility/#comment-1337</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Tynjala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the links, Vivek. I&#039;ll check them out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the links, Vivek. I&#8217;ll check them out!</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek</title>
		<link>http://joshblog.net/2007/08/15/no-documentation-for-flash-and-flex-component-accessibility/#comment-1336</link>
		<dc:creator>Vivek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Josh,

I have got some samples to show you. I&#039;ve created few flash games and made them accessible for screen reader users. You can have a look at them at: http://www.barrierbreak.com/ourshowcase.php. Also, you can get our Hangman game on Adobe&#039;s accessibility blog at: http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2006/08/

I am trying to work with what ADOBE is offering in addition with my own alternatives so as to make the e-learning courses or games as accessible as possible. Also, you can check out our blog about accessibility here: http://barrierbreak.com/blog/

I would like to know your thoughts on the games.

peace, veiky</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh,</p>
<p>I have got some samples to show you. I&#8217;ve created few flash games and made them accessible for screen reader users. You can have a look at them at: <a href="http://www.barrierbreak.com/ourshowcase.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.barrierbreak.com/ourshowcase.php</a>. Also, you can get our Hangman game on Adobe&#8217;s accessibility blog at: <a href="http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2006/08/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2006/08/</a></p>
<p>I am trying to work with what ADOBE is offering in addition with my own alternatives so as to make the e-learning courses or games as accessible as possible. Also, you can check out our blog about accessibility here: <a href="http://barrierbreak.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://barrierbreak.com/blog/</a></p>
<p>I would like to know your thoughts on the games.</p>
<p>peace, veiky</p>
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		<title>By: About Object-Oriented Programming and accessibility for Flash&#8230; &#171; Developing jujupiter.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>About Object-Oriented Programming and accessibility for Flash&#8230; &#171; Developing jujupiter.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] However, there&#8217;s already some people complaining about them. [...]</description>
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